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Both do the job. Period. One weighs less and blows gas into your face if suppressed with a traditional baffle silencer unless you start messing with buffers, springs and AGBs or just run a flow through. The other you trade weight for not having gas in the face and reliability in all weather conditions with a bit more parts wear. That’s why you have to have one of each.

What is delta force using right now?

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Henry and Josh, have you guys considered an adjustable gas block like the Riflespeed to tune ARs for suppressed/unsuppressed usage and for different ammos? It solves the issues of needing to compromise and mitigates spring and buffer tuning needs. Also an LMT eBCG to increase dwell time. Leads to an insanely well tuned AR for any environment and ammo

I ❤ both!

How about short stroke piston HK vs long stroke piston PWS?

3:02 Which is actually Tokarev. Sorry, had to. 4:23 Is that overgassed? 11:33 is that where 4 o'clock is?

I don't see how the bolt could be considered a piston if the gas isn't moving it. Its using the bolt as a surface to press against the bolt carrier which moves moving the piston. Change my mind.

Special Poverty Rifle, please!

As a guy who moved a lot of beans, bullets, and more, Logistics win wars. I've never heard the Art of War book talk about just getting the biggest Stick to win a war! lol But I'm not a trigger guy so I can't know for sure.

Or HUXWRX and be done

Have you guys done a review on the ace Ghalil gen II?

Do you guys remember the two position bolt carriers for the Stoner D.I. system that at least one company developed? (Suppressed/unsuppressed) I don’t think it took off, but do you think that would be a worthy technological path to product improve?

the first seconds of the intro scene... oh what a great movie this could be...

They wanted a better than M993 AP black tip performance from a cheaper EPR round, and they didn't want a bullpup format, let alone anything too internally exotic or different on the gun's mechanics. Personally, I think they should have gone with the RM277 for much less recoil, and even maybe just chambered that in 308. You also don't need to lase a soldier with the XM157 to use it, since you can lase something next to the target at the same range.

Meh, I’ll take the easily mass produced weapon whose parts are easily replaced ala, the AR family of DI systems over the more expensive piston driven system. They both have damn near the same performance where it’s negligible for me

Josh: "I need a new Geissele upper for this video." Henry: "What's wrong with the 12 you already own?" If you're going to teach us about dwell time, you need to do a dissipator video.

Heh heh heh... "massive bored out gasshole" - 8:05

Please enlight me. I thought US civilian cant get modern full auto "machine guns" as they call them by legal terms. I have this believe that it has to be manufactured before -86. Or is that lower made <86 and you can slab any upper you want to it ? Thx! God bless.

Bro, your clock is broken. That was 2:00.

Pistons are a farce. I had a sig 516 it was putting just as much gas in my face as my m4a1 upper. I bought it to keep the gas out of my eyes, and was just as bad. I'll pass thanks. No, I'm not trolling. This was my experience.

Nice to hear you reference Mr. Vickers. I dont think he is a bad guy. I think our g'uv is bad though. All the bad.

Someone should make a modular gas piston that uses normal barrels with gas tube hole

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Anybody..............what light mount is on the Gordon?

I was a Combat Marksmanship Coach, never went the PMI route. But typically a PMI is in charge of the range, for boot camp recruits they only deal with PMIs. For the grunt units we would send guys, including myself to the combat marksmanship coaches course, and we would be in charge of conducting our units annual rifle and pistol quals. The PMIs would be the full time range personnel. Us coaches would go out and qualify, ensure the range was in working condition, then our unit would come out and qual while we coached for our guys. Had A2s in boot and A4s in the fleet.

I see those Auscam pants Henry. Very nice 👌

Massive bored out gas-holes are my favorite kind.

Where rollers….. man I’d do strange things for an Hk 53

A little gas on the finger may be considered a ittle better than unwanted frecles.... Just sayin...

Bro the cope for piston guns is wild lol. There’s a reason the UK chose a DI gun over a piston one lmao. This debate is worse than fuddlore. DI is the superior option all science points to it.

Piston guns all day long

5SFG and Rangers have Mk17s with 5.56 conversions. Is this SIG thing going to be the same sort of situation?

I be super duper cool if their were two actual cool guys makin the video. SGM Pain and Pat Mac sharing the experience and feelings.

Love the rifles, great show!

“That’s just a gimmick Sonny, my M4 with my Acog is a much better rifle” “That M16 is just a gimmick Sonny, my M14 rifle is enough to actually kill the enemy, what will you do with such a small cartridge?” “That M14 is such a gimmick, you really need a reliable rifle like a M1 Garand, that’s how to get accurate fire!” “That M1 is just a gimmick! The M1903 Springfield is really what you need! You can’t kill the enemy with such a small round!” So on and so forth The M7 is a good rifle, and in 20-40 years, when it’s gonna be replaced, people will argue about how the M7 is perfect and there is no reason to get rid of it Move on you Fudds

Check out the caracal816 a2 its a totally reimagined hk416 but not up its own butt and overly expensive. Its a real commercial combat rifle , change my mind.

Dear gun Karens (this is not directed at the guys in the video): you know what we're talking about when we say "DI" AR. Everyone knows and accepts what a "DI" gun really is, and you don't have to scream from up on your soap box and make it awkward for everyone to describe simple stuff. Stop it. Henry should be able to say "DI system" and "Piston system" without us having to listen to you whine. Stop it. We all hate you for making this awkward. You're likely the same idiot who has to turn every simple word into an acronym. You're the Karens of the gun world. You're not on anyone's Christmas card list. You should not be surprised that you don't have friends, because you want to feel smug and "correct" everything everyone says all the time. Now I'm going to go touch one of my DI ARs and touch myself thinking "DI, DI, DI." Of course, this could mean my Drill Instructors (Platoon 2042!!). You'll never know. DI. DI

Borne for XM157

The HK416 is Xzibit Approved.

Premium 20" DI A5 build verses premium piston carbine in the tundra would be a great video.

You didn't have to flex two MAWLs on us Also, what is the mount for the flashlight on the 90's carbine?

I enjoy the discussion on gassing for different environmental conditions. Living just outside of North Pole Alaska I run my ARs in temps ranging from 85/90 degrees down to a potential -50 (my personal coldest is -34). I also semi regularly travel to CONUS and shoot there. The rifle I ran at -34 is the same rifle I took back to the states and ran at 95 degrees. The conditions for use in both cases are 5.56 m193 or m855 ammo, Silencerco Omega 36M with KeyMo, A5H2 and green spring buffer system, 14.5 mid gas barrel with a 0.076 gas port. This rifle runs consistently in all environments I have subjected it to and it is slightly on the gassy side with the suppressor added to the system, but it is certainly well within the tolerable range and is perhaps better than my Colt M4 upper unsuppressed.

Speaking of g36 derivatives, any plans to get a VHS 2 on at some point?

Nice content as always :) DI guns all day for me, don’t like the 416 very thick hanguard and heavy weight. Active French Soldier here, we have the 416F now (14,5' barrel for me) and it’s fucking front heavy for what it is, just for a piston gun...and i don’t talk about all the issues we have with it, like the ambidextrous magazine release which ejects the magazine if you put the rifle against you for right handed people ; it’s really annoying. The stock is too fat, too heavy (HK 416 E1 type stock) the HK stupid steel magazines are (again) heavier than the classic USGI type magazines, the gun is way overgassed(yes, i know, reliability blablabla) the flash hider/muzzle device is ringing (PPIIIINNGGG!!!) every time you shoot, the HK plastic dust cover often cracks or breaks itself, the flip up sights are not very well fixed (lot of losses on the field) the gun feels bigger, thicker, higher in every ways, i really don’t like it, the HK416 is pretty lame to my mind... And for civilians, the 416 is so expensive for what it is, as always with HK guns. So yes, it’s reliable, but sorry guys, i prefer my BCM MCMR or my retro Colt M723 type AR i have at home, or every DI gun ; they’re lighter, cooler, very thin handguard, and they never let me down, they’re reliable, what else serioulsy? I prefer my old, dusty but reliable FAMAS, it misses me lot. I regret my governement bought this HK416F (like a lot of my comrades) rather a classic DI AR, or the VHS2 Bullpup rifle.

Piston ar15

Is it ALL sks or just THAT sks?

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What a real pleasure it was to watch this video. Once again. You two are truly fantastic. I'm a huge Ar15 fan, even more so after this video. Despite only having American Ar's, I'm sorry you don't test the numerous other German Ar´s brands. I would like to know your opinion about them.